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Luthor
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Created 2 years, 1 week ago
Edited 1 year, 9 months ago
Category: Feature Film
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Robbie Lewis (Sent 2 years, 1 week ago)
I perceive from your writing, that you are new to screenwriting. I might be wrong, but that's just my opinion. Your opening scene needs to be edited. For instance, you tell us in the description that Luther find the actions of the kids a valuable source of knowledge, but in the dialogue that follows one can derive the same thoughts, so no need to write that when you reveal the very same thoughts in his dialogue. So you can take that out. You tell us Luther is rich. How do we know he is rich? Always remember, show, don't tell. We can tell he's rich, if you tell us he's wearing a Rolex or show him getting out of A Rolls Royce and checking the kids out. Always write economical. Don't take three pages to describe something you can do in one. Let me give you some help and show you a better descriptive opening. Here we go.

EXT. PLAYGROUND NEW YORK -- AFTERNOON

A vintage Rolls Royce parks at the curb. LEX LUTHOR -- mid 30's, tall, bald -- gets out. He is impeccably dressed in designer suit and shoes. The late afternoon sun glistens of the Rolex on his tanned hand. He sticks his hands into his pocket, as he looks through the wrought iron fence and meditates on small children playing.

Did you see what I did? I replaced "intensely watches and analyzes the action" with "meditates" which means the same thing. That's what I mean by writing economical" Don't use six words when you can use one that describes the same thing.

Did you see how more powerful your description can be. The first thing I did was put the playground in the Scene Heading and tell you where we are at the same time. The next thing I did was amped up Luthor's character description. Right away anyone can tell he's rich. Rich people drive Rolls Royces, wear Rolexes and get suntanned. I hope I was some help to you. Keep writing, Rome wasn't built in a day.
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William Smith (Sent 2 years, 1 week ago)
Thanks for the insight and yes I am new to screen writing. I am having a hard time writing economical because I always thinking too far ahead. Also, I can write descriptive but I dont want to get bogged down in it.
When I write I kinda just go with the flow and see where it takes me. I really need to stop, come back, and fix it up.

Thanks for the comment, it really helps.
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Emílio Rafael Poletto (Sent 1 year, 11 months ago)
I really liked it.
  • (4/5 stars)
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William Smith (Sent 1 year, 11 months ago)
glad someone besides me does
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Riley Maassen (Sent 1 year, 11 months ago)
Why's it called Luthor if it's a story about Superman? That's my only question. It's good so far
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Jeff (Sent 1 year, 11 months ago)
Doesn't seem to be about Superman to me. Superman doesn't come in till the 14th page...


I think it's decent for a first time writing excercise, but some of your action needs to be broken into 4 line max paragraphs. Most of yours are like 5-9 lines long. Massive blocks of text are a turn off. You can say whatever you want, just split them up into 4 line blocks to make it easier on the eyes.

Also, take Robbie's advice and say as little as possible while also getting your points across. Like he said, don't use 6 words to say something when one word can replace them all...
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William Smith (Sent 1 year, 11 months ago)
It is not about superman it is about Lex Luthor. I watched the new superman and got pissed off when they screwed it up so now I am rewriting it as Lex Luthor as the main character. Superman is too black and white but Lex has moral flexibility that I can play with.

It has been hard for me to break myself from the long flowing descriptive word that have been entrenched on me through school.
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Riley Maassen (Sent 1 year, 11 months ago)
I see, I see. Okay. Good Work.
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Bob Lear (Sent 1 year, 11 months ago)
Lex is an interesting perspective to explore. It is about time we had a Superhero movie from the Villain's perspective. Good start for a first draft.
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Bob Lear (Sent 1 year, 11 months ago)
I really liked it.
  • (4/5 stars)
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Dawn Chapman (Sent 1 year, 11 months ago)
I am really interested in seeing where you go with this, I loved Smallville, and all of superman.

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William Smith (Sent 1 year, 11 months ago)
I did a bad job of explaining what the mini mech suits are. Basically they are these:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_A8E1UOS0fk&feature=related

Extend the structure all the way to the shoulders to carry a heavy pack load and add a combat camera to the left shoulder.
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Antonio Rivera-Rosado (Sent 1 year, 11 months ago)
Dear Mr. Smith. I'm into comics and superheroes so I will return to read this script sometime this week. Sorry I could not at the moment, heading to bed for much needed rest. I will share my opinion.
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William Smith (Sent 1 year, 11 months ago)
Antonio, could you help me out with some of the superman dogma? I would like to drop some interesting side characters in here that the super geek would know. If this was batman, I could do it myself but I am not up on my superman.
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Antonio Rivera-Rosado (Sent 1 year, 11 months ago)
I've basically started screenwriting myself, so I'm also in the Z realm absorbing positive matter that will help me evolve. But, in anything I can, I will assist. At least I can share totally honest opinions and hope the merging of views produces Super results. That's what being here is for.

I haven't read the script yet. Just returned home from another long day at work. I will pitch-in Flash-like soon.

I'll see where you're headed with the script and whatever comes to mind that seems promising, will be shared instantly.
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Antonio Rivera-Rosado (Sent 1 year, 11 months ago)
I just read it. Unfortunately it's late for me at the moment and I will rest and upon my return I will provide my input. Until then...
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Antonio Rivera-Rosado (Sent 1 year, 11 months ago)
Alright, I have returned. It is an interesting read. Seeing things from Luthor's point of view does alter the classic reality the world is used to, so in that sense, it holds true to the title. I've mixed reactions though, mainly because I am unsure of your real plans for this script. I feel my contributions would vary dependent on that. I am sharing an overview for now.

Even though you write well, there are many grammatical errors along the way which must be corrected. But, not to worry, finish it first and that will be easier on your second pass.

I'm no expert describing things ( I do have a hard time writing myself) but the descriptive lines have to improve. State the same in a more concise, appropriate manner. But overall, it is understandable and the story flows.

I was caught completely by surprised how you altered, or modified the Superman Mythos by having Supes recognized through Clark Kent's incredible disguise. Hahahahahahaha. I feel that you are right, that worked in the day, but Superman should be evolved to the 21st Century and that I applaud. I feel you must add more emotion, suspense and drama to that discovery. If in fact Supes tried to conceal his identity and by today's standard there is NO way anyone could be fooled by a pair of glasses, then give it a psychological twist. How would Superman try to blend in nowadays his Clark persona and the "S" ordeals. It's a a take which could mark a new evolution in his entire history. After all, he is as much Clark and Supes. Good job there.

You're building up things and since it is a Luthor movie, there is less "S" and much "L", but, as a movie, some parts lag. There is a lot of delay in scene heading changes, plot twists. Think of the public, viewing the film, in a way, fans who know extremely well the characters will endure the ride, but, others just come along for two hours of escapism. Once you write it all, read it, study it, trim it and make it more of a movie, not just the personifications of characters within it.

Let me try te explain this visually. Imagine yourself at the movie theater, flick runs and two elderly friends spend the entire movie's lenghty two hours chewing tobacco at their porch as they share old wives tales. How many people would fall asleep, even if their dialogue is awesome?

Now, say the same, the two elders, the porch and at key intervals of their conversation, we are flashbacked to their past and amazing shenanigans and when the movie ends, everyone bursts into cheers and applause.

That's what I feel about your script. Once you complete it, return and trim it, improve it saying less for more and maintain all the amazing elements which drive it now.

It is a good script, but I'm quite confident you will transform it into an awesome one.

Feel free to write me and share your views. Everything works for the better in the end.

I have not forgotten about the dogma issue. But this script is in it's own way, a Superman origin story re-told through Lutho's most peculiar perspective. So, you're right. It is a bit harder to fit in additional pieces to the puzzle, but, not impossible either. I'm gonna brainstorm and see what I can throw your way which would only enhance it, anything less should just be disregarded.

Hope any of this does help. I mean well always.

Good job.

AR
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Antonio Rivera-Rosado (Sent 1 year, 11 months ago)
It does engage you and there are certain unexpected and welcome surprises, but the cake is still in the oven and smells mmmmm.

Once the trimming, icing and decoration have been performed, then it will be Super tasty.

Success Mr. Smith.
  • (3/5 stars)
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Adam D. Vargas (Sent 1 year, 11 months ago)
You're ideas obviously come with a lot of thought behind them, but you wear your symbolism on your sleeve. Saying less is saying more. The dialog is very plain, it made it hard to get past page 10. If Lionel is mad about the shirt being ripped, show it in his actions. The way it stands now, he just sits there, almost unaffected. If he's really mad, he would get up, grab Lex by the shirt collar - "Can't you take care of anything? Your Mother and I just bought this for you, and look at it now! WHAT'S YOUR DAMAGE!" Also, showing the fight outside of the library prior to this scene would help. Put yourself in the scenario. You can write this scene better.
  • (2/5 stars)
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William Smith (Sent 1 year, 11 months ago)
I was thinking about cutting that scene and just having Lex cut the brakes. Then have him do a V.O. of why his dad was a bastard.
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William Smith (Sent 1 year, 11 months ago)
No doubt my writing of dialog, action, and developing characters need a LOT of work. I feel like I have a good story but I dont know how to tell it well.
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Antonio Rivera-Rosado (Sent 1 year, 11 months ago)
Then that's why you are here for. Absorb all the input, brainstorm, gather your ideas or even prepare your own map of sorts, three acts, three bubbles, pre-organize what you feel must happen within them and when you have a complete layout, fill it in.

It gets easier when you know where you're going, not just writing away and then realizing you have to come back to change, add or erase at random. If you pre-plot your course, filling the gaps and editing will be done within the bracket.