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The Conversation
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Created 3 years, 10 months ago
Edited 3 years, 9 months ago
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Julius Ramon) (Sent 3 years, 9 months ago)
You have something. With more action and all that, maybe a feature film could be in the works?
Stripes (Sent 3 years, 9 months ago)
Cute mini-movie you've got here. It may go against all of my beliefs, but it's definitely interesting. I love how you subtly and naturally eased us into knowing who these two guys are. Very nice job!
Stripes (Sent 3 years, 9 months ago)
Y'know, this is really interesting. You also did very well with easing us into knowing who the two guys were; very nice job!
Chad Fleagle (Sent 3 years, 9 months ago)
For one, you do not always have to capitilize the main character names in the action lines. This is a good bit of writing but also against my beliefs, might as well say Religion. I knew who the two were only half-way into reading the script. The Devil and God. Only in fiction would one ever see them talking to one another.
Stripes (Sent 3 years, 9 months ago)
Well of course this is fiction, Chad, haha.
Melanie (Sent 3 years, 9 months ago)
ahha ...the plan ...perfect storyline. Plus, the blank pages and the "homeless" man ...cool. I like it. (thanks)
Melanie (Sent 3 years, 9 months ago)
sorry ...reminds me of Richard Bach tales....tres bien.
Melanie (Sent 3 years, 9 months ago)
sorry again>>>geez me ...paradise lost you know well. how about "regained" ???
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Gregory D Goyins (Sent 3 years, 9 months ago)
Thanks everyone for your comments. I am grateful.
My intention was not to offend, anyone.
I figure what kind of God could have his ego crushed by a human anyways. It's just a story.
Not touting it as truth.
Chad, I tried to take out some of the capitalized directions.
See, I listen.
I'm new to all this. Still cutting my teeth.
I wanted to try my hand at quick conversation between two characters.
Hope this comes across.

Namaste,
Greg
Juanne Michaud (Sent 3 years, 9 months ago)
Good dialogue; feels very natural and subtle with things that aren't being said as well as what is being said. Perhaps this might make an interesting one-act play? I know you see it as a short film, but I can see it played out on stage as well. (I could see it playing well at a fringe festival, for example... I guess I'm thinking that because we just had one here in Toronto) Just a suggestion.
Melanie (Sent 3 years, 9 months ago)
The script is in no way offending. As far a you being new ...perhaps in the "construction" of the material script; not in the actual maturity of the concept ---in my opinion. Your thoughts to paper are provoking and do have an element of truth --life truth. That's what makes it strike a chord in the reader. Fiction is perhaps a "point of view." Sorry if I came off as curt previously. I can be a bit self-absorbed at times.

Break a leg ...

The Dream Giver - Bruce Wilkinson (try youtube) --interesting life principle--to action.
Dimitri LaBarge (Sent 3 years, 9 months ago)
Greg,

Thanks again for delivering a thought-provoking piece. Your intelligence and dramatic instincts are very solid, and I think as your confidence grows, you have a great deal of interesting tales ahead of you.

The first paragraph could be tightened - we don't need to know what happened in the past with the breeze having carried around clouds, defining the clear blue sky is fine.

While the description of what the soccer moms is doing would be fine when working with actors, it's not playable. This is something that you can only pull off with dialogue; otherwise, just have 'soccer moms strategize together' or something even more terse or playable.

Except for a few too many adverbs, the rest of the action description on this page is fine and focused.

Since there's not a lot of technical aspects of this to critique, I'm going to address some more general concerns for the most part.

First of all, the rhythms of the dialogue are very fine; you do give-and-take very well. The problem here is this: you haven't written a short film, you've written a play. This is tricky because I like the general idea of it (I've actually done an adaptation of a short story with a slightly similar theme, so I like the concept very much indeed.

But looking at it, there's just nothing visual about it at all. That's not to say to shove visual components in it for the sake of it. That's been the ruin of many a stage play adaptation. But the characters are somewhat didactic, more based in theme than character (especially in the first half). It's a thought-piece. By definition, that means it doesn't have a tremendously strong plot backbone, or the settings to take advantage of the medium.

On the other hand, theater absolutely thrives with stuff like this, and in that context, I love the provocative and lucid dialogue and choice metaphors. And I think the last page is just terrific as a capper. I really think you should take a deeper look at this and change the medium.

This is smart and funny (I especially enjoyed the exchange about holidays) - but it's in the wrong box.
Jeff (Sent 3 years, 9 months ago)
I'll just comment on format things right now, I'll get to the story stuff tomorrow.

I see a lot of use of '...' To me, this is distracting.

HOMELESS MAN
...your brothers miss you.... See, I dont know why its necessary here. Whats wrong with just a sentence? In other words, what do the dots represent? what are you trying to get across by using them? Because I dont know.

Also, Characters only need to be capitalized the FIRST time they are introduced, not every time you mention them in action.

The story itself, I must say, is a really good idea. Im not mistakem, its God and Satan talking right? Homeless man is Satan and the white guy is God? This is brilliant.

I like how the conversation between the two reveals this more and more and actually makes earlier comments make sense with later comments. The dialogue is great. It flows well.

Dimitri mentioned how this is a stage play, I agree, but it could be both. I can see this working as either/or.

Plus, it would be really cheap to film. You could do this with almost no money. Thats always a good thing. I have a problem with my scrips, which I plan on directing, not thinking about budget and when I g back to read I realize I wont have enough money for a scene, so I have to dumb it down or get rid of it all together. Thats not a problem here. I skipped some parts for time but I'll have more time to read the whole thing in its enirety on Sunday.
Jeff (Sent 3 years, 9 months ago)
I rated it 3 1/2. It still needs some tightening, but overall, I think its amazing, besides some of the formatting choices like the ...
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Gregory D Goyins (Sent 3 years, 9 months ago)
Because I wrote it here on Zhura and you can't do overlapping dialogue on here i used the ....(ellipse) to denote that the character just keeps talking while the other character stomps on top of that line at that point
So in:

SHARP DRESSED MAN
...then you go and print all those lies about me...
HOMELESS MAN
The authors did take a little creative licence.
SHARP DRESSED MAN
...made everyone think I'm a monster...
HOMELESS MAN
Yeah, but at least now they're thinking!
SHARP DRESSED MAN
...What was I supposed to do?....

The Sharp Dressed Man keeps talking as if a monologue. The Homeless Man interject his lines at the ellipses.

They do change over in places like the one character will start doing this and come to an ending point, they'll be a conversational lull or changeover of momentum and then the other character will start this same format.

Or at least that's what I tried to do. I guess some it bled over into other lines because I use this same ellipse kind of a thing for pauses within single character dialogue lines. But it's the best I could think of at the time I started, given this limitation of Zhura that is not in Final Draft.

Thanks Jeff I appreciate you help on this. I look forward to your input on Sunday. I wanted it to cheap and easy to do. So I am glad that comes across.

So that you know. The homeless guy is god and the well dressed guy is satan.

Thanks again.
Namaste,
Greg
Jeff (Sent 3 years, 9 months ago)
Oh duh. haha. Yeah I think that's what I meant and I got it mixed up. The "Dad" in the beginning tips that off, whoops. lol.

Yeah in the beginning it's weird because I was so confused. I was like "Wha? That dude is white and the homeless black guy is his dad? Huh? Adoptive father? what the hell?? lol. and then you keep reading, you stick with it and all is revealed through dialogue and without having to literally come out and say "Hello!!! I am God!! I am talking to Satan!! We are in disguise!!

Haha. So yeah. I love it. It's well thought out and very clever.
Jeff (Sent 3 years, 9 months ago)
Hey Greg, what's up. Told you I'd be back Sunday, even though technically right now it's Monday. Here I am. Just a few things:

I think on page 5 "singing" should be an actual parenthetical.

SHARP DRESSED MAN
It was an idea who's time had come.
People were sick of...
(singing)
..."Roamin' round the heavens all day".

Page 12:

HOMELESS MAN
Well, they Jews understood me pretty well.

"The" instead of "they."

SHARP DRESSED MAN
Yea, but if you'll do that to your own Son,
while telling everyone's he's perfect,
what'll you do to them?

'everyone', not 'everyone's'

SHARP DRESSED MAN
Answer the question! DO I HAVE A MOTHER?!
HOMELESS MAN
...No.....(laughs)
SHARP DRESSED MAN
You suck.

That. Was. Awesome. Hilarious.

Okay. Finished. The ending is great. The entire read is a lot more clear now that I've actually finished it and I like it even better now. It's really well thought out.

I don't really know much about religion or anything like that. I'm not a believer, I don't go to Church or anything, but I still loved it and it still made sense to me. I like the little bit about Satan actually creating Earth and everyone. Is that something that is discussed somewhere else, or did you just throw that in there? Very cool indeed.

Jeff
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Gregory D Goyins (Sent 3 years, 9 months ago)
I was just trying to piss off as many people as possible.
LOL....
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Gregory D Goyins (Sent 3 years, 9 months ago)
I like your comments,
Jeff thanks so much for taking time to help me catch some of the things I wouldn't be able to otherwise. I am glad it was a good read, hopefully it will play well also.

Namaste, my friend
Greg
Jeff (Sent 3 years, 9 months ago)
Hey, I hope it's okay, but I fixed some of the typos I found. I didnt change the singing to a parenthetical because well, that's your decision, not mine. But the few typos I found I changed.
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Gregory D Goyins (Sent 3 years, 9 months ago)
Thanks.
Its a big help
Special Man .com (Sent 8 months, 1 week ago)
just perfect
  • (5/5 stars)
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Gregory D Goyins (Sent 8 months, 1 week ago)
Thanks so much for reading my stuff. I apprecaite you reading my stuff.